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ok so obviously when someone dies, people get upset, they greive (sp?). it's ok isn't it? but suicide isn't..everyone always says how suicide is always so selfish. but no one really thinks about what that person was going through, it's not like they killed themself because they got a little upset one day. for a person to commit suicide means they must really need to get away from their life, and if the people left only think it's selfish then they're all morons.. no one ever thinks about the person that is gone, they think about themselves, and how they'll cope without that person. they care for themselves, and in a way it's more selfish on their part... i don't mean to offend anyone but i believe it a strong issue and i have a strong oppinion. i'd like to hear other thoughts on the matter........
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Suicide is a serious thing, I personally think that people should always be happy and never get to a state to even contemplate suicide. If they do get to that stage it think they should get counseling as i've had some while i was at school and it did help loads for me. Might be different for other people but i eventually became very good friends with my counselor
This might be insensitive but i think its teenagers with too much time on their hands they just need to find things to make them happy or keep them occupied. Such as a hobby, arts, sports there are so many things!
If you need a break from life at home or school, take a holiday or go to a relatives and explain to them you need some chill out time.
I say this without judging any particular situation. As there are different types of suicide unfortunately
hmm, i think you're generalising it too much. these people have serious problems that aren't about to be fixed by a hobby or a quick holiday away from home..
i just think there's more to it than people think. it's not always that easy to face life, and some people just find a solution to it, not necissarily the right one but we shouldn't assume what we don't know.
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I didn't suggest a quick fix or try to generalize it, but having hobbies help these kinds of situations. A lot of people tend to like being busy as well. If your out having fun you wont need to think about those kinds of things.
Suicide is caused due to depression right? Depression is actually caused because of the lack of certain chemicals in your brain that food gives you, nothing to do with what is actually going on in your life. So really, the best way to solve depression is to get medication of your doctor and you won't kill yourself. Or take drugs such as hash, which also gives you the chemicals you need. But then again destroys a lot of your brain cells.
Suicide isn't always because of depression so that ruins your whole theory. Suicude is sometimes caused by confusion or misunderstanding. Rarley, it is caused by curiousity. I know some think of it only because they're under the influance and yes one thing leads to another like you said but your whole theory is based on the cause of suicide being depression, Craven.
Before I start my spiel, Craven you are an idiot. You obviously have no idea what depression is. Your faith in western medicine scares me, have you ever heard of cognitive behavioral therapy?
Anyway, I love thinking about killing myself. It can be a great way to pass time.
Although, I must admit I disagree with suicide unless you are suffering from a terminal illness.
There is always help to get you through any psychological problems you might be having, and if that's your reason for wanting to kill yourself why go to that extreme when the problem can be fixed (it will be hard, but the problem will be fixed). You only get one chance at living this life, why waste it?
And, for those of you Buddhists and Hinduists, or anyone who believes in the Indian theory of reincarnation, you know you just come back lower than your last caste, or class, if you are the lowest, it's going to happen again.
for a person to commit suicide means they must really need to get away from their life, and if the people left only think it's selfish then they're all morons.. no one ever thinks about the person that is gone, they think about themselves, and how they'll cope without that person. they care for themselves, and in a way it's more selfish on their part...
I can see how you would think that, and it's true to a degree, but think about it, if someone close to you kills themselves you are going to have a hard time coming to grips with the fact that they are gone. because you want to be with them but cant you would become angry and selfish and think 'how could they leave me? didnt they know i need them?'
but it's like denial, it's a form of grieving and i dont think it makes anyone a moron, obviously the person who killed themselves could no longer deal, and the greiving person needs to find a reason why, or searches for something to make them understand. It hurts that someone is gone, and in the persons mind, it is the person who killed themselves fault that it hurts. deciding that the suicide was "selfish" of the person who did it is a way to come to grips with the pain it has caused anyone they left behind. I don't think that suicide is selfish, but i don't agree that people who decide it is are necessarily morons.
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The act of suicide is only acceptable if there is no apparent chance for recovery. Or, in another sense, "...death comes as an indulgence because of extreme circumstances which make the termination of life a welcome relief from the unendurable earthyl existence..." If suicide is commited for any other reason, then it can rightly be considered selfish. Perhaps it can even be compared to martyrdom?
As well, one should only feel sorry for them in this cirumstance. In the circumstance that the suicide was committed before nihlism had been reached and a hope still remained, then a person has every right to label the one who commited the suicide "selfish".
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