i_say_pig

Some people say cloneing should be banned and it's (-(EVIL)-). That any clone is born without a spirit and that they are the devil's tools. And some say that it should not be banned because it can be used to provide importent resurch for things like sickle-cell animia and other crappy diseases like that. But is it really evil? If you cloned are you born without a soul? A rather loaded question, I know, but seriously, does it, is it?

Should it be

because it's evil

or

should we bring the clones on?

s0ul_deep

i'm not sure, i won't totally shun the idea. but i think that's tapping into God's job. I mean that's a little extreme to me, but i honestly don't think they could successfully do it. human cells are way too complex and have you thought about how many lives would be lost until they actually got it right??? you can't make a living thing from a dead thing you know? But if it was to prove successful i believe wholeheartedly that the clone would have a soul, conscience, and a heart

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prieraceae

You really need to define the word soul for the question to be answered.

MrsDrake

well idk if im the right person to answer this..because i would probly use cloning for getting my dream man. so if i knew i couldnt get the real him. at least id have a part of him..someone exactly like him yet not him.

but i think cloning can be good if it is successful because not only would it be good for research but what if someone was lonely and they couldnt find anyone to make them happy then they would need a human companion. is it evil to want a companion? i know theyre not exactly real people..thats why theyre clones. but clones could be realistic if they did it right and it cant be evil to want someone to cure your loneliness.
hey its better than chasing the person who you know doesnt want you. clones would be alot easier to get them to love you. ok so maybe it doesnt seem sensible to want cloning for this reason but its definitely not evil.

to decide whether the clone is evil? well i believe since clones arent real people with real human DNA...theyre neither evil nor non-evil. well what i mean is they would neither go to heaven nor hell. they would probly just disappear because they dont have the capabilities to cross over. but who knows maybe they will be successful and create one with real DNA..then they would have a soul. if it ended up like Steve Urkel creating Stefan then yes just like Stefan the clones would have a soul..be a person with real feelings and a heart.

cloning is ok. unless they were going to do it to create an army and blow u p the world or something..then if a person clones it doesnt matter. its their business. to allow it is not gonna be much more dangerous than guns or any other kind of weapon.

RNarcisism

How is cloning anymore or any less immoral then an organ transplant? First of all, you need to understand that a clone is only possible with isolated DNA sequence. It's not creating another organism out of thin air from previous sources. Due to the pre-replication complex, you can isolate DNA without wasting it. So it's not harmful to the person which is the basis for the clone. The sheer advancement that would take place in the presence of parthenogenesis is hard to imagine.

I believe cloning could be a valuable a valuable commodity within human advancement. I don't believe it should be taken out of proportions, nor do I believe that it will. Therefore, I approve of human cloning.

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Hanna

Yes, if you hadn't said that I would hav pointed it out. More people would not die with the whole clonalaisation (it's a-ok! I do know that isn't a word), it wont kill already existing personites!
Just, some of the clones my not survive or "work" until scientist can "get it right".
So there isn't really any loss of life...only the trying for to be creating NEW life!

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RNarcisism

On the other side, while cloneing may not take a toll on human life, it would take a substantial toll on financial and, obviously, ethical matters. That's why it's such a prevalent arguement.

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Hanna

ah yes...no one ought to come to harm PHYSICALLY...but it will hurt peoples wallets!

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RNarcisism

In 1993, a large handfull of pro-abortion doctors were murdered by a group of extreme pro-lifers. It is possible the same thing could happen with cloneing.

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Hanna

ah...let me rephrase my previous statement....:
WARNING! TURN BACK! MANY PEOPLE WILL DIE!!

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RNarcisism

But then the sheer scientific breakthrough and advancement of parthenogenesis, which would increase science far more then anything else, would never happen if we did not clone. Is it worth it to save a few lives compared to saving the lives of countless people whom cloneing will affect? Do the scientists not know the risks associated with the ethical side of cloneing?

It's the same with chemistry. If it wasn't for advancements in chemistry, predominantly quantam chemistry, then we would not have the entire chemistry industry and would be lacking so many luxuries. We could easily be hundreds of years in the past if it wasn't for chemistry. At the same time, it is because of chemistry advancement that we were able to develop the atomic bomb, which would then go on to murder 210,000 innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and contribute greatly to radioactive contamination due to fallout.

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Hanna

Ooh! decisions decisions! It's a tough one...*bites lip*

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RNarcisism

The same with the Second Gulf War. Is spreading democracy, fighting terrorism, and saving the Iraq citizens from abusive governments worth 4,400 coalition deaths or the $1,000,000 spent on it every 5 days?

I myself am not a fan of democracy, but these things are not something people think about often.

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Hanna

really? people don't question their form of government when things aren't going as they wish they would?

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RNarcisism

I wasn't talking about the democracy part, though I realize I made it seem like that. For that, I apologize. Anyway, I meant things such as the $1,000,000 spent every 5 days. People criticize the war, of course, but most don't have any reason why. That is, they don't know why they criticize the war. That's all I meant.

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