Jellybean

what's the point?
what do we achieve?, no one really knows the answer. yet there's people interested who try and find out. most of the world just go through their lives without really doing anything, without wondering about the bigger things of life. why are we here? .....and i'm not talking about religion. i'm not interested in that side of it.
i just want to know your views on life.

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Do we really have a higher purpose?

I believe our existance quite random, the only thing that is real is that we are here now. Everything is subjective, so you are the one who is to decide what your purpose is.

We have no comprehension of what comes after, so set your goals on something achievable now. The only thing that seems to make sense to me is the pursuit of happiness.

RNarcisism

Suppose there is a bigger picture in play. How do we prove it? How do we acknowledge it? Why should we?

I'm an existentialist, and I believe that, although their is an objective universe in existence, it is made predominantly via constructivism. As such, everything is indeed subjective. A person views the basis of the universe around them, and come up with a meaning for life from there.

I don't claim to know if there is a bigger plan in action. Nothing I have ever witnessed has led me to believe that there is one, and from what I've studied, predominantly in the field of nucleosynthesis; I don't believe there is one. But if there is one, it doesn't matter. Just like my religious beliefs, I don't believe God exists. But, I believe the ability to truly know is beyond mortal comprehension. In that case, I want nothing to do with a God which would make their presense so hidden and yet demand that we experience him. The same with a bigger meaning in life.

The purpose I have created for myself is to study philosophy. It is my wish to discover the fundamentals of what makes things what they are and, infact, find an answer to the very question of a point in life. Until I find that answer, if I find that answer, I shall remain an existentialist and focus on other philosophical matters. And that is my meaning in life.

Hanna

The moment we're born we're living to die...
But we love in between, and that's the point...
(ok, so it's lame an corny as i usually am, but i kinda like it...)

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RNarcisism

If I may ask, what exactly does that encompass?

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Hanna

well, yes, it is pretty non-descript I suppose...But I liked it's saccharine simplicity!

I guess what I -was- saying was...Loving, and being loved in return makes life seem worthwhile...you know, that is with freinds or family or whoever, spending time with them, being able to love, and seeing that people care about and value you seems to be enough to get by on...
So that, just perhaps, that's all there is to it...

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"Photographer? I thought you were a Jazz-Poet?"
"I am! I span many genres. They call me the genre span-er"
"They call you the spanner"
Vince Noir and Howard Moon

RNarcisism

So a vagabond or somebody that doesn't like being social or interaction doesn't have a meaning in life?

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Hanna

Yes well, it's not a very good meaning of life, I agree...perhaps they could love...themselves...or a pebble......

Or perhaps the meaning of life is 42....

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"Photographer? I thought you were a Jazz-Poet?"
"I am! I span many genres. They call me the genre span-er"
"They call you the spanner"
Vince Noir and Howard Moon

RNarcisism

But what if one loves another who hates life? Or if one loves themself as a hater of life? What then?

Lol. You've got to have appreciation for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I suppose. Even if it was 42, we still would not know the question to which "42" is answering. Only that it is the answer to the question which answers the meaning of life.

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- Friedrich Nietzsche

Hanna

well THEN my brain would kasplode! I do admit it doesnt have mush support....but it seemed nice at the time!

well there you go, we don't know the question....maybe that's why so many people decide life is pointless....or has no meaning....(wait Hanna....WHY is that why people decide life has no meaning?...scratch that....) Are people who think life has no meaning just too lazy to come up with a theory or have a belief?

but isnt the question just "lifeQUESTIONMARK"? then if the answer was 42 I'd be at a loss....but still.....I don't think I am one to be looking for the answers...still, people should come up with their own answers probably. Believe what you want.

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"Photographer? I thought you were a Jazz-Poet?"
"I am! I span many genres. They call me the genre span-er"
"They call you the spanner"
Vince Noir and Howard Moon

RNarcisism

I agree. It still seems nice. But, with fallacy to desecrate it, I simply don't see how it could hold true.


Nihlism is the eventuall outcome of the failed search for a meaning in it all. Therefore, when people think that there is not a meaning in life, they have either fell victim to nihlism or have sworn allegiance to defeatism or the like.

I have already given my answer to this question, but how is it that an objective universe has no teleology? The moment somebody admits to the concept of ex nihilo, they must admit that there is a purpose in life. Surely, if one believes the universe is not entirely subjective or constructivist in nature, then that person must admit that there is a meaning just as objective, however hidden it may be, correct?

"Our destiny exercises its influence over us even when, as yet, we have not learned its nature: it is our future that lays down the law of our today."

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The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.

- Friedrich Nietzsche

Hanna

Well I SHAN'T BE DEFEATED!...only...I havn't exactly worked out my theory yet...*twiddles thumbs*

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"Photographer? I thought you were a Jazz-Poet?"
"I am! I span many genres. They call me the genre span-er"
"They call you the spanner"
Vince Noir and Howard Moon

RNarcisism

As long as you still believe that finding a meaning in life is possible, then it's impossible to fall victim. Even if you don't have a personal theory. Though, it works better if you do.

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- Friedrich Nietzsche

Hanna

Yes, I can imagine it might do...heh...I'll get back to you on that!!

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"Photographer? I thought you were a Jazz-Poet?"
"I am! I span many genres. They call me the genre span-er"
"They call you the spanner"
Vince Noir and Howard Moon

RNarcisism

As you wish.

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The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.

- Friedrich Nietzsche