Teen Message Board

Teen Forum

Teenage Forum | Message Board

 

Go Back   Teenville > Mind & Soul > Philosophy

Teenville - International Teen Forums, Devoted to bringing you Fun and Advice™


Not a member?! Register now, It's free!


Welcome to the Teenville forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 27th February 2005, 08:10 PM   #1
Fayz
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Age: 18
Gender: Guy
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 0 Fayz is on a distinguished road
Do people exist?

Sometimes when I'm in the middle of a crowd or something I get a strange feeling that I'm the only person there. That everybody else is either a robot or a fabrication of my deluded mind. I haven't seen anybodies internal organs except on TV, so how do I know that what is actually inside someone? I know it sounds somewhat like a conspiracy theory and a lot like I'm a crackpot but I'm not and most of those feelings only last a bit.

Has anyone else felt or thought the same thing?
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 27th February 2005, 09:08 PM   #2
dioraddict
Teenville Moderator
 
dioraddict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: USA
Age: 19
Gender: Girl
Posts: 866
Rep Power: 254 dioraddict People are starting to turn and look!dioraddict People are starting to turn and look!
That's a very interesting concept that I agree with up to a degree. Somethimes I feel that our world has become so fast paced that people stop acting human and more like machines, and appear as such.. (for example, interacting with a stranger feels like your talking to a machine rather than an actual human being) never slowing down or stopping - still going because society tells them that its normal - but they are still there, internal organs and all, lol. I've held organs in real life (first grade.. I was too young to appreciate it and I didn't eat meat for about 1 and a half months - plus the preservitives smelled repulsive) and have had people close to me have had different medical procedures done on them.

Anyways, I really like the way you think, the whole - I have to experience it for myself to judge whether it is real or not. It's very refreshing from most people in society who believe what people tell them.
__________________
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 27th February 2005, 10:17 PM   #3
Archie
Teenville Moderator
 
Archie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: a li'l bit everywhere
Age: 21
Gender: Guy
Posts: 509
Rep Power: 193 Archie is a glorious beacon of lightArchie is a glorious beacon of lightArchie is a glorious beacon of lightArchie is a glorious beacon of lightArchie is a glorious beacon of lightArchie is a glorious beacon of light
i do believe all people we see around exist (never tried to rip someone's heart out to see if it's beating...sorry, i'll get serious). I have never doubted people are biological, though i think the true randomness in people's minds sometimes is lacking.
In my opinion it doesn't really matter if we are all 'mother earth's children' or some kinda robots with ingenious artificial inteligence, as long as this randomness that causes us to be unique and unpredictable still exists. Maybe the cause of our all-sorted-out lifes is the product of our society where instincts are muted and the repeating procedures of day-to-day life cause us to become part of an infinite loop (maybe not infinite, we all should sometime die...and go to heaven, or what each of us believes).
And there are such moments that we escape from this extasy and realize that life has more to offer than what we thought of being natural, what we never thought about and just did because we thought it was right... allright, i drifted a bit..

but in the end what i'm trying to say is that we can get consumed in the world we're living and the life we see as true. That way the randomness is no longer of any importance... and without randomness indeed the human brain loses its advantages over computers... i think i'm getting a bit far again.
So i think it's normal to be confused every now and again...i think it's a part of our life, trying to understand what motivates other people to act as they do...and then i think that every single soul out there would act as a true human being when needed (yes, i know i'm wrong, there are exceptions), because our nature can't be forgotten...even lab rats keep their natural instincts after being locked in a cage for generations.

...wow, that's long... sorry to have wasted time and space to express my thoughts, only slightly related to the topic though i hope it's atleast just a bit clear.
__________________
...still a noob here... (i thought i should remove this but it is kinda me and i am a bit sentimental)

you know, no matter what the weather, your old wolfman is just here for you. trough rain, sleet, snow or dark of night, i deliver, and here's just one more gift of my devotion
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 4th March 2005, 03:00 AM   #4
Genevieve3
Teenville Moderator
 
Genevieve3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Posts: 200
Rep Power: 136 Genevieve3 will become famous soon enough
Hey
no post on this site is a waste of time

Yeah i can realite with what you say.. I feel sometimes that i notice those things some times and that im the only on in the world that does. THat i see and appresiate things that no one else sees. WHEn i was a little morbid a couple of years ago i always thought that no matter how many people were in the same room as me that i was always alone that no one anywhere would ever understand what i see. its hard some times and the fast pass is crazy. and i complietly understand what you mean . I have a twin and i some times still feel like no one will ever know you know. lol cool. BUt i do remeber that there are peopl who love me in this world and that im not alone.. its cool but some times i wish people would stop and smell the rosesa nd spot with this fast pass world that seems to be racing no plce?
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2005, 12:46 AM   #5
cats456
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: United States
Age: 16
Gender: Girl
Posts: 42
Rep Power: 0 cats456 is on a distinguished road
i keep wondering if this is a dream and I'll just wake up. i feel weird actually because everyone has their own world that they live in and there are so manyy worlds it make my head twirl!
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2005, 12:49 AM   #6
cats456
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: United States
Age: 16
Gender: Girl
Posts: 42
Rep Power: 0 cats456 is on a distinguished road
Laughing i agree

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archimed
i do believe all people we see around exist (never tried to rip someone's heart out to see if it's beating...sorry, i'll get serious). I have never doubted people are biological, though i think the true randomness in people's minds sometimes is lacking.
In my opinion it doesn't really matter if we are all 'mother earth's children' or some kinda robots with ingenious artificial inteligence, as long as this randomness that causes us to be unique and unpredictable still exists. Maybe the cause of our all-sorted-out lifes is the product of our society where instincts are muted and the repeating procedures of day-to-day life cause us to become part of an infinite loop (maybe not infinite, we all should sometime die...and go to heaven, or what each of us believes).
And there are such moments that we escape from this extasy and realize that life has more to offer than what we thought of being natural, what we never thought about and just did because we thought it was right... allright, i drifted a bit..

but in the end what i'm trying to say is that we can get consumed in the world we're living and the life we see as true. That way the randomness is no longer of any importance... and without randomness indeed the human brain loses its advantages over computers... i think i'm getting a bit far again.
So i think it's normal to be confused every now and again...i think it's a part of our life, trying to understand what motivates other people to act as they do...and then i think that every single soul out there would act as a true human being when needed (yes, i know i'm wrong, there are exceptions), because our nature can't be forgotten...even lab rats keep their natural instincts after being locked in a cage for generations.

...wow, that's long... sorry to have wasted time and space to express my thoughts, only slightly related to the topic though i hope it's atleast just a bit clear.
wow i totally agree. well put!
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 27th August 2005, 12:52 AM   #7
thatgirl
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: in front of my computer
Age: 19
Gender: Girl
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 0 thatgirl is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fayz
Sometimes when I'm in the middle of a crowd or something I get a strange feeling that I'm the only person there. That everybody else is either a robot or a fabrication of my deluded mind. I haven't seen anybodies internal organs except on TV, so how do I know that what is actually inside someone? I know it sounds somewhat like a conspiracy theory and a lot like I'm a crackpot but I'm not and most of those feelings only last a bit.

Has anyone else felt or thought the same thing?

i don't think u sound crazy at all. i think it's a perfectly normal part of the human condition to feel alone or isolated in a crowd at some point because we are not capable of ever 'experiencing' someone else other than ourself, so we can never feel completely sure if anything beyond us is real.
maybe what ur feeling lies in what ur perseption of a human is? when u are looking for the 'human' in the people around u are looking for bits of bone and organic tissue arranged in a humanish form? u said u've never actually seen any oragans, maybe the organs don't matter in someone's overall humaness? maybe what makes someone human is intangable and can be seen on the surface. maybe what makes someone human doesn't 'physically' exist.
next time ur lost in a crowd remember that even though u can't see it everyone in the crowd has a deeper dimension to them then what u see in front of you.
it's interesting to note that this site is the exact opposite. here you can only see the 'intangable' side of people - their thoughts, feelings and opinions, and not the biological robot those things live in. do u ever doubt that someone on this site, who can discuss questions like this, are real?
__________________
Cuz ur dancing dirt into the snow
while people look at u on show
and watch u bleed
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2005, 08:02 AM   #8
XdevilishX
׺×!Princess Kira!׺×
 
XdevilishX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Australia
Age: 19
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,518
Rep Power: 597 XdevilishX is a name known to allXdevilishX is a name known to allXdevilishX is a name known to allXdevilishX is a name known to allXdevilishX is a name known to allXdevilishX is a name known to all
Well, i never feel like that when there are people around, but sometimes if i'm walking or something, and the place is literally deserted, i sometimes feel like all of a sudden everyone has disappeared off the earth & i'm the only person left lol. I'm such a loser sometimes lol.
__________________
*¤°.¸¸.·´¨`»¤ Princess Kira ¤«´¨`·.¸¸.°¤*




Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2005, 11:16 PM   #9
sez
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sheffield
Age: 21
Gender: Girl
Posts: 118
Rep Power: 0 sez is on a distinguished road
I kno what u mean! when i'm in like a crowd of ppl tho, or just watchin ppl go by i wonder 'Whats their story' - u kno where r they going, how r they feelin, whats happenin in their life!! We pass the same ppl everyday n neva actaully say nefin to them n stuff like that!! kno wat i mean ?!?
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 08:52 PM   #10
Ali
Registered User
 
Ali's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London
Age: 22
Gender: Guy
Posts: 54
Rep Power: 82 Ali Is gaining respect !
I agree too! Sometimes u can just walk thru a crowd like they're not there. I think its cos a lot of people today dont take the time to ask people how they r or make new friends, just cos the world runs at 5 million miles an hour and everyone has somewhere to go.

I think people are more suspicious of each other these days as well, for obvious reasons. My girlfriend still doesnt understand how i can talk to strangers on the tube (London railway) on the way back from a football (soccer if ur american) game, she says its scary, but i think thats kinda my point, u know what im sayin?
__________________
Have you ever asked a clown if he found himself funny?
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2006, 11:12 AM   #11
debs
LOOK! I changed my title!
 
debs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: dublin,ireland
Age: 20
Gender: Girl
Posts: 627
Rep Power: 202 debs is a jewel in the roughdebs is a jewel in the roughdebs is a jewel in the rough
i think everyone has really good points i mean everybody has different thoughts and experiences and does anybody else ever really know everything about you? personally sometimes i feel like theres two of me. one of me is the part that everybody knows the other part is the thoughts goin through my mind that are like a secret from the rest of the world. even though you think you may know somebody there is always a part to them that you never can get to know.

saying that sometimes i wonder are we really here at all! how do we know that we really are living life and that were not all figures on a board game? what is human? its all we know but have we ever really looked past our small world?

k well that probably makes no sense but anyway............
__________________
DONT WORRY , BE HAPPY
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 4th March 2006, 04:48 PM   #12
WP1
Registered User
 
WP1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: well....the truth is out there
Age: 19
Gender: Guy
Posts: 387
Rep Power: 163 WP1 People are starting to turn and look!WP1 People are starting to turn and look!
mm...mmm...mm...i totally understand Fayz and to answer why that you feel like that .....well....THE MATRIX HAS YOU heheheheheheheh
__________________
He who is in love is wise and is becoming wiser, sees newly every time he looks at the object beloved, drawing from it with his eyes and his mind those virtues, which it possesses.
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 20th August 2006, 09:35 PM   #13
MojoHuma
Registered User
 
MojoHuma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Londinium
Age: 16
Gender: Girl
Posts: 234
Rep Power: 0 MojoHuma is on a distinguished road
According to my deranged English teacher, we don't exist. She frequently randomly declares in the middle of speeches about William Shakespeare's or somethig we are figments of our own imagination because our subconscious is powerful enough to do something like that.

I don't think she's entirely right, but she could well be. I never feel like the people around me are robots, but I sometimes doubt my existance and those around me. I get that alienated feeling in crowds as well. They feel dream like. And the I wonder if we're a figment of someone's imagination. Someone placed us in a world where they dictate what happens and the only thing we have control of is what we think, say and do, the last one with its limitation. Sort of like a RPG. There's a world and we're just characters, but in the end the webmaster decides what goes.

...

That didn't make sense did it?
__________________

.few people understand the true gift that is laziness.
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 20th August 2006, 10:57 PM   #14
Craven
Monitored User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cumbernauld
Age: 17
Posts: 700
Rep Power: 0 Craven is infamous around these partsCraven is infamous around these parts
If we don't exist, how come we hav a conscience.
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Old 21st August 2006, 01:14 PM   #15
MojoHuma
Registered User
 
MojoHuma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Londinium
Age: 16
Gender: Girl
Posts: 234
Rep Power: 0 MojoHuma is on a distinguished road
Well I don't know. I simply enjoy putting forward badly thought over ideas for the sake of putting forward an idea.
__________________

.few people understand the true gift that is laziness.
Offline:
Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Points Per Thread View:
Points Per Thread:
Points Per Reply:
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
It's not the public transport...it's the people. MojoHuma Complaints & Rants 14 13th September 2006 07:44 PM