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29th July 2005, 06:54 PM
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I ask Jesus to guide me everyday so i can do the right thing. Thats the thing i pray everyday but u can pray to God about nefin n he will answer, providing u believe that ur prayer will make a difference. He may not answer you in the way u expect, but he will answer.
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30th July 2005, 05:48 AM
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How will he answer? In what kind of way? God has given me the outkast. I am nothing and the adopted child from a family, who do not care, and care more about their own children then anything else. God put me in a space with things i never wanted. I want to start again and die, so i can become someone better. I hate my sufferring.
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30th July 2005, 11:04 AM
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It depends what you pray for. If you pray for death then God wont give it you cos he has a plan for your life.
If you pray for God to help you, then of course he will answer, but you have to believe it wil be answered.
Can i ask, do u still have friends who care about you? Are you sure ur adopted parents dont love you? If you look at it one way, God has provided you with clothes, food and a roof over your head without asking anything in return, when many people dont have that at all. God has blessed you with life, more of a life than many people even get a chance to live, are you sure you dont want it?
God will never give you more than you can handle, but think of it this way. Imagine you have a kid, and the kid wants to learn how to skateboard. Would you let them? Lets say you did let them learn. Would you always be there, everytime they went skateboarding to make sure they were fine, or would you leave them, so maybe sometimes they fell off and hurt themselves, but they still learnt?
God loves you, but he loves you enough to let you fight your own battles. He is like a dad, he wont fight ur battles for you, but he's there wen u need support n wen u need a shoulder to cry on. You just have to depend a bit more on him and he will help u so much.
I honestly dont know how he will answer cos he answers every prayer differently, but all i can say is that if you put ur faith in him, then he will bless you and always be there for you to talk to, whenever you need him. He's there right now. All it takes is a little faith.
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Sometimes I prayed for death, but it never came true. I don't know why he gave me this body. I am a clumsy person and worsed i ever known. I cry because I am the most sensitive. I am a jealouse when my fiancee talks about other girls. I trip many times three times a day. I get angry for silly reasons. I help others, but i do not get it back. I try to make my family proud, but they ignore it. These days i have been ignored of my feelings and no one wants to hear them. I have a few, but they are all around the world. It's because I have traveled many places. I know my father does, but not my mother. I know my sister charlotte loves me, but not my sister gaby and i don't know about the other one.
Everyone, who gets there life how it is, of course they wouldn't want it. I didn't want this life and i never asked for it. I taught myself how to bike no one ever told me how. I told myself how to see things i am not supposed to see things. I taught how to be crazy because my parents could not control me. They always gave up on me. Now I think my fiancee gives up on me too.
If i did have a child i want definitly see him scatboard, i always wanted to try, but i never got one.
I learnt of course, but it didn't do me any good.
Explaine to me what is faith. I cannot understsand why people use that word. I don't even know what it really means. I can't understand the other words of god we use.
Faith, spirit, etc...you understand?
It's sad.
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It depends what you pray for. If you pray for death then God wont give it you cos he has a plan for your life.
If you pray for God to help you, then of course he will answer, but you have to believe it wil be answered.
Can i ask, do u still have friends who care about you? Are you sure ur adopted parents dont love you? If you look at it one way, God has provided you with clothes, food and a roof over your head without asking anything in return, when many people dont have that at all. God has blessed you with life, more of a life than many people even get a chance to live, are you sure you dont want it?
God will never give you more than you can handle, but think of it this way. Imagine you have a kid, and the kid wants to learn how to skateboard. Would you let them? Lets say you did let them learn. Would you always be there, everytime they went skateboarding to make sure they were fine, or would you leave them, so maybe sometimes they fell off and hurt themselves, but they still learnt?
God loves you, but he loves you enough to let you fight your own battles. He is like a dad, he wont fight ur battles for you, but he's there wen u need support n wen u need a shoulder to cry on. You just have to depend a bit more on him and he will help u so much.
I honestly dont know how he will answer cos he answers every prayer differently, but all i can say is that if you put ur faith in him, then he will bless you and always be there for you to talk to, whenever you need him. He's there right now. All it takes is a little faith.
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30th July 2005, 10:35 PM
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Faith is believing in something you cannot prove by earthly things but you believe in your heart. You can't prove that Jesus died on the cross, but you can believe that he died for you.
My faith is that Jesus died for all the wrong things ive done and that he forgave them when he did that. I believe that to be true, but i cant prove it, i just know its true in my heart because i can feel God.
God blessed you with life because he thinks you are beautiful and wonderful the way you are! You have people who do love you and appreciate you! You say you do nice things and sometimes dont get them in return? Well maybe God has blessed you with the ability to be kind even in the hardest situations!
You know God doesnt expect you to be perfect, you make mistakes just like everyone else. I get jealous sometimes when my girlfriend talks about other people too when maybe i shouldnt. I get angry about things too, that just means ur human! I'm very emotional about all sorts of things! Its cos God blessed me with a heart that cares about things!
Have you read any of the bible? It's a big book and it's hard to understand in places but it does say this in one of the books:
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only son, so that whoever believes in him may not die, but have eternal life"
God loves you and he wants you to know him. He wants to have a personal relationship with you and with everybody. He wants you to love him like he already loves you. If you do, then he can give you eternal life in Heaven.
It also says:
Psalm 139:13-16
You formed my inmost being; you knit me in my mother's womb.
I praise you, so wonderfully you made me; wonderful are your works! My very self you knew; my bones were not hidden from you, When I was being made in secret, fashioned as in the depths of the earth. Your eyes foresaw my actions; in your book all are written down; my days were shaped, before I came to be.
This is explaining that God made you and knew your life before you ever were born. He has a plan for you and all you have to do is follow him, and he will give you the chance to follow this plan! He will lead you and bless your life so much and give you the chance
to be so happy!
Maybe you could go down to your local church and talk to someone there? Not a catholic church, a baptist church maybe or an evangelical church? They may be able to help you understand better than i can! And this message is already very long!!!
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31st July 2005, 12:08 AM
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But who wrote the bible isn't it us humans? I think it's rediculous and i believe that some men, who wrote the bible, did put words in Gods mouth. what if i didn't believe in my heart would that make me unfaithful? I don't really like churches.
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31st July 2005, 09:17 PM
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U cant generalise n say churches - i dont like churches most of the time and i'm a christian !!
A church isn't a buildin - at least it shudnt b - in the Bible it says that when people meet 2gether to worship Jesus thats a Church!
N the Bible thing is kinda difficult 2 explain - basically God wrote the Bible - its inspired by God - people just wrote down what God told them 2!!! Sori - That doesnt explain it very well!
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31st July 2005, 09:48 PM
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If you didnt believe then who would you be praying to? If you're praying at all you must at least think there might be someone there?
Sez is right, the bible is hard to explain cos it is written by God. People who were really "in tune" with God wrote the bible, because they believed God to be guiding what they wrote. It wasn't invented, it was inspired.
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1st August 2005, 05:02 PM
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Well, who wrote the book, did god do it or did ourselves write the book? If good died already that means he couldn't have writen the bible at all. These words were taking from different kinds of men. Its almost following all men and showing that men are better and woman are worsed. We woman do not get the same and equal things like the man do.
I don't like churches because they bring in people that go there, but do not really want to be there. What is that? Is that really being sincere? I know lots of people, who go home after church, and then do bad things on sunday. Is that being proper to god? God forgives you and then you messed up by doing something stupid. I don't think god should even forgive you then you lose it by doing something stupid. Shouldn't you be doing something good on sunday to make him happy? Don't you love good?
of course I can say I do not like churches and it's not really generalising. If I would generalise I would say, "All churches are bad." I definitly did not say that. I said, "I do not like churches." It's very different from each other. You are putting words in my mouth to say,"Churches" I am not saying that. I believe your still learning and I am too.
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U cant generalise n say churches - i dont like churches most of the time and i'm a christian !!
A church isn't a buildin - at least it shudnt b - in the Bible it says that when people meet 2gether to worship Jesus thats a Church!
N the Bible thing is kinda difficult 2 explain - basically God wrote the Bible - its inspired by God - people just wrote down what God told them 2!!! Sori - That doesnt explain it very well!
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I understand what you mean by praying. I sometimes pray to god, but i do not say i do not believe in him. I can believe in my own time and think about it. I still want to learn everything i do not know about. of course their might be someone out there, but you do not know which to believe. Inspired by god or people? Each of these words were written by each man. Man thought this and thinks this after god had died. Do y ou really think god was a god, god or a human human, who was just popular?
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If you didnt believe then who would you be praying to? If you're praying at all you must at least think there might be someone there?
Sez is right, the bible is hard to explain cos it is written by God. People who were really "in tune" with God wrote the bible, because they believed God to be guiding what they wrote. It wasn't invented, it was inspired.
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well God's not dead! So basically he spoke 2 people n they wrote wat he told them to write!!
N the Bible doesnt say anything about men being better than women!!! Thats just people twisting what it says!! It says God loves everyone the same - we are all equal 2 him!!
And Church - well the Church has misrepresented God - they've done things which are wrong in the name of God! And too often people who go to and run Churches forget God and do things which give other people the wrong impression of God.
I love going to Church - its fantastic! I get to meet with other people and have a great time together! The other week our Church had a picnic after the service - everyone brought sandwiches and went to a park - we played rounders and football and stuff!!
And everyone else there was really interested because when else do you see lots of people, from little children to old people, play a game of rounders or whatever, all together, enjoying it, encouraging each other and not worried about who wins or who looses but just having fun!!
And thats what church is really about!!
Yeah i mess up, i make mistakes, but i try not to- i try to please God in everything I do! And when I get it wrong it does upset God but God is loving and, if i'm really sorry he forgives me for the mistakes I make and promises to be with me to help me as i try to not make the same mistakes again!!
That probably doesnt explain much but its so hard 2 explain!!!
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Not all people who go to church are christians. Unfortunately some people go and say they are christians just because they go to church, but they dont believe any of it and so they go out and do bad things. But it's like Sez said, God forgives us if we ask him to and we try our best not to do it again. Nobody is perfect though, u cant expect anybody to be 100% fantastic, pleasing God 24/7 because we aren't perfect!
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God forgives you and then you messed up by doing something stupid. I don't think god should even forgive you then you lose it by doing something stupid.
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Do you really think somebody who loves you would do that though? Imagine somebody you really love, and you did something to hurt them. Don't you think that they would forgive you, because they love you and they know that if you say sorry, u mean it?
If you say sorry to God but dont mean it, he will know. He knows everything about us. I did something wrong 5 minutes ago, but God's already forgiven it, because i believe in his death and resurrection on the cross and that was to pay for what ive done wrong and ive asked him to forgive me.
In the end, God loves you no matter what. Just like anyone who loves you, except purer, with no conditions, no "buts". God loves you, but he gives you the choice to learn for urself. He doesnt want people who follow him to be pampered and looked afta, he wants them to be true followers and to know him. Thats what the skateboard illustration was about. He wants us to learn for ourselves, so he doesnt always protect us, he lets us make our own mistakes so that we can learn for ourselves.
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so did anyone find God?....well
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Who did God tell? Who did he tell to write his words? Well why do people try to twist things up? If we can twist things up we can definitly twist the bible up. I know he said we are equal, but that could be anything. The equal of animals, parents, wives, husbands, children etc.... He could have meant the equal of only men.
Once, when I went to church with my family. My sister Gaby cried. Why is that? Do you feel that you are terrible and you deserve punishment? God does not want pity he wants you to be happy, doesn't he? Of course you get to meet people, but what happens when you go to a bar and you see someone different. Isn't that the same? What if you saw someone, who is completely different, and you are afraid to speak to him or her. Shouldn't you be nice too and have fun with that person? What about people that are on the street that beg. You wouldn't like that. Lots and lots of people I know do not like that. I don't care I just give them some and smile becuase i know they might be suffering or are hungry. What are we doing to help? Lots and lots. What are you doing to help? Having fun at church and only thinking about your own fun and enjoyment. God doesn't want that. I heard in the bible you needid to help others too. You can't just think about yourself all the time. Don't you want to help others? Don't you want to help yourself? You can't do both at the same time. You have to give yourself to God. God doesn't want you to always have fun. I mean, I love having fun, but then I think about helping others. Why? Becuase it makes me feel that I am useful. I want to be useful. Is playing games and having picnics helping? I don't understand why picnics and having really have to do with God.
Another reason is, God did not say make churches did he?
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well God's not dead! So basically he spoke 2 people n they wrote wat he told them to write!!
N the Bible doesnt say anything about men being better than women!!! Thats just people twisting what it says!! It says God loves everyone the same - we are all equal 2 him!!
And Church - well the Church has misrepresented God - they've done things which are wrong in the name of God! And too often people who go to and run Churches forget God and do things which give other people the wrong impression of God.
I love going to Church - its fantastic! I get to meet with other people and have a great time together! The other week our Church had a picnic after the service - everyone brought sandwiches and went to a park - we played rounders and football and stuff!!
And everyone else there was really interested because when else do you see lots of people, from little children to old people, play a game of rounders or whatever, all together, enjoying it, encouraging each other and not worried about who wins or who looses but just having fun!!
And thats what church is really about!!
Yeah i mess up, i make mistakes, but i try not to- i try to please God in everything I do! And when I get it wrong it does upset God but God is loving and, if i'm really sorry he forgives me for the mistakes I make and promises to be with me to help me as i try to not make the same mistakes again!!
That probably doesnt explain much but its so hard 2 explain!!!
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Well doesn't God forgive anyways? He can't say no because he loves thy children. Isn't that true? I know we aren't perfect that is why he made us that way. He wasn't perfect either. God isn't 100%. If he was he wouldn't be in all kinds of trouble.
I heard that if you weren't batised and you ate his bread it would be a sin. Is that true?
No I wouldn't believe someone would do that. Not everyone would forgive. I don't forgive people that are jealous and hurt others. Once when i was in high school this british girl, who was 14 years old, was jealous about me becuase I was nice to everyone. I was really popular with everyone. Love and peace I gave them all. She always did something to make me unhappy.
If you believe God would forgive that is fine with me. sometimes I feel that i should pray once in a while. When I feel sad or I need someone I pray to him, but that is only when I need him. When I want to say sorry and I really think I deserve it I would ask him to forgive, but I wouldn't say it everytime I have done something wrong. I believe he knows it's wrong and you will forgive later.
I understand you completely. I understand about the skateboard.
Yersterday night I was talking to my ffiancee and I said, "Maybe I should get a skateboard." He said I would just get hurt, but I said i wouldn't care and I would try and try harder and harder evertime. If I hurt myself I would not stop.
It's amazing what you said about the skateboard because now I feel like I am learning something new.
For some reason maybe God wants me to be taught now. He didn't before, but maybe he does now. the weird thing I am 20 years old and some people say I have the mind of a 14 year old. I guess he wasn't there at all for me at the age of 14.
God can't help everyone i guess, but why did I have to wait so long. Now I am getting old he wants to help now, why?
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Not all people who go to church are christians. Unfortunately some people go and say they are christians just because they go to church, but they dont believe any of it and so they go out and do bad things. But it's like Sez said, God forgives us if we ask him to and we try our best not to do it again. Nobody is perfect though, u cant expect anybody to be 100% fantastic, pleasing God 24/7 because we aren't perfect!
Do you really think somebody who loves you would do that though? Imagine somebody you really love, and you did something to hurt them. Don't you think that they would forgive you, because they love you and they know that if you say sorry, u mean it?
If you say sorry to God but dont mean it, he will know. He knows everything about us. I did something wrong 5 minutes ago, but God's already forgiven it, because i believe in his death and resurrection on the cross and that was to pay for what ive done wrong and ive asked him to forgive me.
In the end, God loves you no matter what. Just like anyone who loves you, except purer, with no conditions, no "buts". God loves you, but he gives you the choice to learn for urself. He doesnt want people who follow him to be pampered and looked afta, he wants them to be true followers and to know him. Thats what the skateboard illustration was about. He wants us to learn for ourselves, so he doesnt always protect us, he lets us make our own mistakes so that we can learn for ourselves.
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